Actor Daniel Dae Kim On His Watch Collecting Journey Since Talking Watches | House of Craft

I must say that when I see all the faces I know now why I didn't retire because how can anybody retire from a passion I don't know our economy and the gender inequality will catch up as a brand we better be prepared for that last time I saw you you were actually talking about watches that belong to your father yeah this is all your fault yeah you guys I said it in the video and my intro thanks for bringing it up but this is all your fault I didn't care about Watchers until you guys put all these videos gaming the algorithm pretty much yeah Daniel it's great to see you um you know we are so pleased to have you back here so Daniel is in Alum of of talking watches as I'm as I'm sure you guys you know I'm sure many of you know and we were actually looking at it and Daniel's episode is in the top five most popular episodes of Talking watches ever uh which is saying something because we've been doing this for 11 years uh so clearly something about your resonates out there uh I don't know what that is maybe you can tell me um maybe there's something wrong with your algorithm we'll see that's probably it um so you're actually in New York right now right you're living here uh yeah I've been here for the past uh couple of months I'm uh doing a show Uptown uh at on for 42nd Street in Time Square if you guys are around please come check it out it's called yellow face amazing uh can you and this is not a pitch I swear but can you give us a little bit of the the story line and then we'll get into watches sure uh it's uh being done by the roundabout um and uh it's uh a semi-autobiographical story about uh a playwright named David Henry Hong who some of you might remember from uh M butterfly you won a Tony for that um and uh he it's a comedy about uh a situation that he got himself into where back in the day he protested uh the casting of a a white actor playing an Asian character in Miss Saigon um when it first came to America and then in the very next play he wrote he happened to mistakingly cast a white actor as an Asian lead in his play and so it starts from there and then it expands into a number of different things about his family about politics and uh uh it's it's a pretty expansive play but uh one that I'm having a lot of fun doing that's amazing and so that we you know the last time we spoke was a few years ago now uh you were really into I remember you were really into Royal Oaks right you were really into Royal Oaks I think there was a nautilus in there as well can we talk can we talk watches of course that's why we're here so so so tell me about your Royal Oak Journey a little bit uh you know I'm happy to say that uh I've able to I've been able to acquire a couple of really nice ones and uh uh ones that I enjoy wearing and and enjoy just taking out once in a while and uh for test drives and things but um you know I think we talked about this last time but I'm a bit of a purist uh that the Royal Oaks I have are um the 542 and then and then the 50th Anniversary um because I feel like uh I like the the idea the connection between the old and the new and I thought the reissue was a a really nice modern ization uh and without being uh too ostentatious no baguettes or anything like that and so uh it kind of fit with my vibe a little bit the the Royal Oak in particular What attracted you to it in the beginning was it the history yeah I like I like I like that it's companion piece it's and that it's that Gerald Genta and you know the the progression of where he went from Patek and what he's gone on to do since then and uh you they feel very much like partner people pieces uh the Nautilus and and and the Royal Oak and so um I also love the the chance that he took at the time you know that port hole design was wasn't something I'd really seen you know like there had been a lot of variations on it since then but back when it was first released it was fairly revolutionary I thought yeah and how often do you wear uh like let's say a vintage Royal look like is it part of your daily life or is it less so I'll wear my vintage more than I'll wear my modern one actually yeah why is that because I like it better and none of my pieces are safe Queens you know I I really like to wear them and it's just and it's really kind of nice like for for in you know when I go out with my wife you know there are a lot of choices she needs to make shoes dress makeup hair really I like the fact that the one choice I get to make is what watch am I going to bring out tonight you know and uh uh and the Royal Oak is is one where I'll go out I'll wear when I'm with some very special people uh who mean something to me uh Beyond just a professional sense it's that's kind of the place it holds in my life and which 50th Anniversary Royal Oak did you get uh it's it's the one with the smaller smaller diameter it's uh yeah but I can't remember the serial number off the top of my head but uh I know all the watch nerds are going to be very upset with me now uh but uh yeah it it actually looks exactly like the 542 yeah yeah and what are you wearing today uh I am wearing uh uh White dial speed master oh uh the one that came out recently uh I love it a lot and I was actually in Korea um shooting a new TV series and uh as a reward I think we talked about this last time too whenever I do a significant um piece of work in my life like um like the play I'm doing right now I'll be I'll be looking for something to commemorate this play uh uh I bought this watch as uh a Comm mation of the series that I just shot in Korea and what's unique about this watch uh it I love it you know for what it is off the rack but this one happens to have a laser engraving on the back from the factory uh that has the name of uh the TV series along with the date and location so from the factory yeah so it's uh it's very special to me now can I ask how does one do that one has to have relationships and one has to be very nice what uh what was the series that you were shooting over there uh it's uh the working title is called Butterfly and it's a spy series it's an action adventure series but it's also at its heart uh a family drama between a father and a daughter uh it unites an American cast with a Korean cast uh there are a lot of Korean stars in it American notable names and it will be half in English and half in Korean it's it tells a story of korean-american spy me who is hiding out in Korea um and he's uh he's he works as a Soju distiller but he's a former spy and one day uh he is attacked by a group of other spies one of whom happens to be uh a young female uh who is half half asian and we find out later that that female is actually the daughter he left behind in America who is now grown up in the family business and is coming to attack him that's that's what children are good for you know well you know it's a metaphor yeah that's amazing um so so tell me what is exciting you these days in in in watches and how has your passion changed since we shot talking watches probably five or six years ago collecting watches has always been very personal to me um and we talked about the reasons why I like to collect and I would say that it's become even more personal and that I think even less about what other people will think of my collection you know I I really I can identify pieces that I really like and the reasons why I like them and if people don't like them other people don't think they're valuable or you know something worth talking about that's totally okay with me you know um some of the pieces that I really enjoy that I've gotten recently are a a gold uh SEO POG you know I love that piece you know I got one in really good condition and I I wear that all over New York City uh cuz it adds a little splash of color to you know whatever I'm wearing and you know it's not too showy and something that you know I'm not fearful about when I walk the streets because we all know what it's been like you know um in major cities in America these days yeah what what are some other watches that that have caught in your eye recently well if we're going to if we're going to talk uh the higher end um this is a safe space I just got a uh I got a salmon dial 5270 which um which I really that's been uh on my list for a really long time it's a great watch um you know you actually inspired me because uh I don't know that's good or bad but no because I was I was debating like you know what configuration you know there's the yellow gold there's the rose gold there's uh you know there's the Platinum ones and things but you told me about how much you loved your salmon di I do I got married in it yeah you mentioned and so I thought I don't have anything with a salmon dial and you know now nowadays I look for things that differentiate one watch from another watch because if everything looks the same then you know it seems a little bit more arbitrary what you choose to wear that day right but the salmon dial has its own Vibe and um and so I there's a specific time in place to wear that kind of a piece correct yes MH yeah it's uh I mean I've said this on our podcast 5270 in general think is really an undervalued rare it will be a very rare collectible thing down the road I know there's at least one in the audience I saw it before nice with a green dial though um but it's uh look I mean it's patek's first in-house perpetual calendar chronograph it has to be something that I think we'll look back on in in 10 15 years with with with great admiration for sure and the other thing I've I've learned about myself is I like Perpetual calendars um nothing wrong with that I just I just do and I get you know I I was you know very much a sport sports watch wear for most of my life but you know because I live an active lifestyle it's hard for me to kind of worry about a leather strap because you know I'm washing my hands if I'm sweating if I'm you know I just think a little bit about it but now as I get older I feel like well you know that's part of the wearing experience too you know let that leather strap get aged and worn a little and and uh and so I'm wearing more leather strap watches these days so what other perpetuals are are catching your eye these days the jorn uh chronometer perpetuel I have a one with a uh blue dial which I really like and uh the Lango on sure yeah that's uh the data graph Perpetual I think that is exquisite um with the slate gray dial I mean again it's the different dial colors I think um we're we're all moving away from stainless bracelets and I don't want to say we're all I I happen to be uh and so uh yeah so those are it's nice to know like there are different colors and different moods there was a a a piece that uh I just started wearing uh from True North it's collaboration with true nor and Eric wind sure it's got the sub dials are the color of a stoplight and and so it that's also fun to wear yeah uh but you know watches can be fun in that way too yeah so tell me a little bit about about the Jour and where did you first hear about fpjourne where did I first hear about fpj I think oh well this was this was maybe 10 years ago I was in London and I was talking to a group of people about you know uh independent watchmaking and this was before like Jord started to Skyrocket and uh you know at the time I was looking at their pieces uh with the double dials uh the Double sub diales and I kep thinking they look like eyes you know and that was really that that was really unique to me it wasn't really my taste at the time but that's when I started clocking what they were doing and you know I like the story of the the family I like the story of the the watch maker and these and I you know since since having purchased one I I really see you know how much care how how much uh they care about their their client base also I think a lot of watch companies are like that now especially at that price point but um they brought me into uh their process in a way that made me feel invested in what they do and how's the relationship with with with longa been since you got your your gra perpetual and I think you got that for a special occasion if memory serves uh yeah that was another uh commemorative event uh but I you know I love it they've also been really kind and I I just think the engineering of that piece is really exceptional and I think it's so beautiful so it's one of the nice things about the watchmaking community is that when you're able to be in a position to to purchase one of these it's not just an over-the-counter thing and you just go in and put your credit card down or whatever or your mortgage your house you know they remember you they remember you and you you start to really establish a relationship and that's that's um that's beyond a typical consumer transaction yeah and I I think a question that that I'm often asked and I'll pass it on to you is is how somebody like me which who am I I don't really know buys a watch but how does somebody like you Daniel dayim buy a watch do you just walk into a boutique and say hey had like a DAT gra Perpetual or how does something like that happen I wish it were that easy it's not it's really not you know the story of getting a royal oak was I I felt like I had to like like give blood and donate my first child or something uh no it was uh you know it's uh it's it's not easy um it's really not yeah and so sometimes I'm I'm lucky enough to have relationships with manufacturers other times I'm not like uh you know I've when the Rolex lemons came out I was like Oh What a Beautiful piece I the only one I've ever seen is the one on your wrist sorry about that know so so it's uh you know we all establish relationships and you know uh of course if you're a billionaire you can just go out and buy one on the secondary Market at any time but you know I think I think there is something special also about the pursuit of the watch and getting it in the way that you feel comfortable with and sometimes that takes years and that's why we have things like gril watches yeah so what is the hardest you've ever worked to get a watch uh uh well if I ever get a Lans then I can tell you that story uh you know uh yeah no there I think for people who can just afford to buy anything watch collecting watches in my humble opinion is a little less special yeah because if there's no story behind it if there is nothing that you're working for and toward as a goal then it's just another thing um and I don't look at my watches that way so you know if I can commemorate a special event or if there's something that I know I've worked really hard literally to be able to afford yeah that's that's special you know and and those are the things that that I tend to remember and so just just before you mentioned the the idea of a Grail watch do you have one particular Grail watch that you're chasing honestly I don't think I do right now um uh you know I'm in a situation where sometimes I'll see something but but I'm always checking myself do I just want it right now or do I really want it for a lifetime you know and uh those are I'm always asking myself that question because I can afford a certain level of watch and I can just get it as an impulse purchase but it doesn't it's not as satisfying for the reasons that I just mentioned but uh so there are a few things like the lons I would I would love to have but um um but but there isn't something that I I'm aspiring to in such a way that if I don't have it you know I I can go on yeah you'll survive yeah and and and Patek it doesn't seem like it's a brand that that I mean I think you have a nautilus correct you have 3700 um any other patchs that have really caught your eye uh you know I just got a um a Kat trva uh the uh the Dual time krava which uh which I I love MH it is the easiest dualtime function that I've ever seen on a watch with the buttons buttons yeah and you know now as I get older I appreciate big buttons and High legibility um but I also like the the the color combination that that coffee that mocha color with the the rose gold is really something again that I don't have anywhere else in my collection and the practic ality of it with that color combination is uh something that I I really enjoy yeah and so you you have children I think in their 20s correct which is hard to believe um are they interested in watches at all they've now been converted in fact some of my my watches have gone to them already they're on loan like the the gold Pogue that I'm wearing now was actually in my son's uh place for several years and I just saw him uh I gu well we see each other regularly but the one of the times I was at his apartment I I said do you wear this he goes not really and I was like doop and I took it right back I said if you're not going to wear it I'm G to wear it yeah um yeah so but he like uh he wears uh he regularly wears a speedy Tuesday oh uh yeah that that he loves and you know uh as part of their graduations we talked about um big personal moments in our lives as part of their college graduations I my wife and I were able to gift them with uh a watch and so now they understand the meaning you know and Associate it with a special time in their lives we engraved it and uh you know we presented it in a way that hopefully has meaning to them that's really neat and so how long will you be in New York I'm just curious play uh well the the play runs until the end of November and uh you know once I'm doing eight shows a week so I don't have a lot of time um but uh you know once the play closes I want to take a week or two because it's holiday season in the city and it's a great time to be here uh I want to reconnect with some of my watch friends and the watch Community because uh living in Hawaii one of the things it's hardest to do is you know have in-person an in-person watch Community yeah uh so I I'm I'm looking forward to reconnecting with a lot of dealers that I know friends that I know and just talk some watches yeah do do you spend obviously you live in in Hawaii most of the time do you spend a lot of time in the Los Angeles Watch scene or or not so much not really because when I'm in New York it's usually for work right I'm sorry in La it's usually for work um and so you know I'll get invitations to watch events but it's usually I have to be there and I have to be free for that concentrated period of time I would love to join some of those events um but you know it's it's not the priority when there's a lot of work to be done and you know other things understood and so what exactly if you've been reading our side or any of the or any others have you paid attention to the the independent Watch scene at all the high-end uh Watch scene well you know you're I think you have Gary steinard coming here later right we do indeed yeah Gary is the guy that turned me on to nomos like Gary is a big nomos guy and if he's here I want to talk with him about it he's up I think in an hour yeah got it so yeah he's always talking about nomos and so you know I I have to say like that's one brand that I'm I'm very curious about so you don't own one yet I do not okay I have I don't know enough yeah to know you know uh what what would be right for me yeah same with uh reverso I'd like to get a reverso but there's so many of them and uh I have yet to I have yet to do my education I want you to know that I've got an expert in Nomo somewhere in the room wherever Tenten is I don't know there there there's 10 so 1010 was in Germany with noos what three days ago three days ago he's your no most guy I want to open up the floor to to questions either from for myself or or or Daniel we've got a little bit more time to to chat watches with them yes sir how do you decide what watches you TV shows or movies or those pre-selected for you oh that's a great question um I take a lot of care in uh thinking about what watch my character would wear um it's important to me as anything else when I'm building character because it's important to me as a person and even if that character doesn't wear a watch that's got to be a very specific Choice um the play I'm doing right now uh uh the character wears a cardier vintage uh cardier tank uh because it's based on a real man uh who happens to wear something like that and uh and so that's a very specific choice I think for a character for my sh career I wore uh a sin uh because it has had uh uh a military Heritage and had a but yet a modern look uh and so that was and it was at a particular price point that I felt like would be appropriate for the character but I go into I do think a lot about what that character would wear and I try to be very accurate in terms of what year uh that W the the manufacturer of that watch would be Visa the the year that the story is told and how old that that character is is thank you that's exactly the answer we were hoping for you know so a lot of a lot of other actors would say I don't know the the you know the the The Stylist picks it or somebody else you know picks it for me so I'm happy that somebody's paying attention right here well I love it when like people see the shows that I'm in like for instance I did um I did a um a series in England and my character was a tech billionaire and so uh I chose ajor for that uh and I thought you know and I actually got put into the dialogue of the show did you really that the character wears in fpj you know and things like that are part of this uh many characters especially people who have that kind of money and you know how they would choose to spend it now did that help you get the allocation quicker you know I don't even think I don't even think they knew at the time to be honest I guess not many people watch the show uh any other questions yep how are the watches for your characters sourced are they ever your personal watches or is the production company having to go out and find them sometimes are my Personal Collection um for Hellboy uh I chose uh a Casio uh that came from my Personal Collection uh and sometimes uh you know I'll talk with the production about helping me Source them and other times I actually just pay for them myself and then put them in my collection afterwards any other questions nope right here I think the the watch industry has changed a lot in the past 5 years so trying to celebrate events for yourself and family doesn't it get harder and harder for the everyday guy to get a location to any watch I guess it depends of what kind of watch you want you know like the AL the the some of the some of the watches I have bought to celebrate events and commemorate events have been under $1,000 and they're not limited editions so um again like I think for for me collecting watches doesn't have to be a high-end Pursuit you know like um I can I value things that are as little as $200 as much as I value things that are multiples of that it just depends on you know the meaning that's associated with them yeah and I I think you know I think you're right and I think that's a totally fair assessment I think things will come back to normal so to speak I think they are already the secondary Market has really come down over yeah and I I think I mean you know we we know the folks at Rolex and Omega and all these Brands pretty well and there everyone's producing more than ever Demand on the even on the primary Market has come down a little bit and I think if you go into an authorized dealer for I'll say Rolex or patch because I I see a pat Tech and say Hey you know I'm turning or my you know I'm turning 50 or 40 or whatever in in six months or a year like they'll make a concered effort to do it I think the and everybody knows this but I'll say it anyway like the best way to to ensure you get an allocation from a dealer is to have a long-term relationship and I think the thing that where people get frustrated is they walk into to WatchON Switzerland or wimpy or chelini or whatever and say oh I want a yellow gold Lon and they basically say get the F out of here like everybody wants that watch you know but when you have a long-term relationship then it's like hey I you know I bought a date just first when I graduated college then I bought a a Daytona when I you know whatever got my first bonus etc etc and you have to remember that a lot of people out there have been doing this a lot longer than than we have collectively uh and you're I don't want to say you're in competition with those folks but those people will get priority and so when you see I use this example because he gets everything Mar Wahlberg right like Mark gets everything but the reason he does that is because he's been buying from the same authorized dealer gir's in Beverly Hills for 20 years and you know he was buying he I I forget which film it was but he bought 50 submariners for his crew in like 2008 you know when submariners were available right so all of a sudden like he was helping gir's out when they couldn't sell the submariners and like do you think they'll ever going to forget that in no way and now he's obviously on to to many other things U but it all comes down to long-term relationships just like with or Patek or longa or or anything else but I understand the question for sure it it is challenging no question and I would say that you know for those who are not able to buy 30 submariners at at a time you know do some homework you know uh it is hard when you haven't done any research about watches and you walk in and look for a loner you know um so for those who are new who are watching you know identify what that might be what your partner might appreciate what you might appreciate and and try and get in there early yeah sir thank you I actually have a non-at question so you've been primarily a film actor for at least uh in terms of your career and so now you're doing a Broadway show where you have eight shows a week like what are some of the challenges or benefits to doing uh like so much like acting live in front of an audience in a way that is different than film yeah no uh thank you for the question uh one of the challenges is you know I really appreciate a mic on my off days because I'm trying to protect my voice uh the other challenge is you know I can't really have dinners with friends because I'm always working especially on weekends uh uh and you know it does require a certain amount of energy and stamina and endurance that that even though I might be shooting something five days a week on a film set or a TV Set uh it's different because you know when you're on stage in front of people there there's no such thing as phoning it in there's no such thing as doing a half-ass job people are paying a lot of money and flying sometimes you know across the world to see you so there is not only an obligation but a desire to do my best all the time and that's just true in general but on stage it's it's slightly different um the benefits are that the relationship between actors in an audience is unparalleled like this this Dynamic right now where we're talking as a group you know we're we happen to be up on stage but the questions are coming from you guys and I can feel the energy in this room that's what it's like being on stage and to have that connection makes the audience a character in the play so when they start to laugh I learned something about my character or I learned something about the play this this play is a comedy so when when people are laughing and boisterous it lifts us up you know as an ensemble that connection between audience and actor uh you can't find in any other medium so also a big fan one of my favorite roles you played was Johnny Gat in Saints Row if Johnny had a watch what would that be I'm just oh my gosh wow that's a really good question it would be purple whatever it is uh because Johnny always wore purple so I'm thinking about like if there's an a purple offshore or uh there is for the record yeah but something huge bulky and showy is what he would wear something with some some bling on it too yeah some something along those lines but I don't know like yeah no he would have I was asking the question could he afford it he would have stolen it if he couldn't afford it I think we had another question right in front thanks Ben and Daniel for the speech today I think it's great to get content from both of you hopefully we don't have to wait as long like another five years till we get the next one but looking back at the 2019 video that you guys shot I thought that it was very interesting Daniel that you know the Nautilus and the Royal oaka kind of main STS or holy Grails for a lot of collections but for yours you chose to go vintage first particularly for the Royal Oak so was what was your thought process like when you were choosing whether to go vintage or to the store to get the Royal Oak what surprised you about going down the Vintage Journey and any advice for people who are trying to go on wow yeah lots of questions in there no that's okay uh uh well my connection to watch collecting has always been about family and history you know because of my dad as we talked about so you know watches of the era meant something to me and it never needed to be shiny and new for me for it to be attractive to me and I I appreciate watches that mean something to the watchmaking world like when the Nautilus came out it was it was a Monumental moment in watchmaking same with the Royal Oak and with with uh W with with a few other pieces that we can talk about so the fact that it meant something they meant something to me and watchmaking uh was really something like when Rolex started go to going to their in-house movements that was also an interesting time and um if they interesting movements if they if they mean something that's some but but I also love modern pieces too like you know this is this is just very recent and um you know it's I don't really limit myself one way or the other um but I have respect for both thank you for joining us this is refreshing I want to ask this for both of you both of you mentioned having children and you mentioned loners but do have either one of you or you and your wife chosen a specific piece and if so does it pain you to know that you someday have to part with that time piece that's a great question does it pain me to know that no I mean I think it was patch who once had their ad campaign that no one really owns a Patek you know you just save it for the next Generation uh and that's the way I feel about my collection because I don't I don't really do a lot of transaction with my collections I it's not like I buy in order to think about selling um I love the pieces that I own and I want to keep them you know for as long as I'm I'm able to wear it uh and then when I'm not able to then it's a privilege to be able to pass down things like watches to loved ones so and I hope they'll be even more special to them because their old man once wore it uh I think we have a few more minutes uh two more minutes uh any more questions for Daniel or myself over here oh y go ahead so this is a FAL choice but quick question mostly for Ben but either one could answer it be interested in your selection you have to choose either modern or vintage and that's the entirety of your collection which way do you go it's a very clear answer for me and it's modern for sure and the the reason for that is uh my life right now is about my kids and about my wife and me and and the the world the history that we're creating together and so as I said earlier my my favorite watch is a day date of which there are millions out in there in the world but it's not there's only one that my wife gave me this is a contemporary watch this is my son's watch so for me it's it's about creating stories with with with with my family and I think there's you know it's very easy to say oh you know vintage watches have more Soul or more passion and I think that's a case that could be made reasonably but then you meet somebody like ret reppy or berneron or Simone Brett who will be here later this week and you realize that there's lots and lots of passion left in the Contemporary watch game and you're creating that history and then I think for me and I'm in a in a weird you know position here but I'm I don't want to say I'm part of that history but I'm at least adjacent to that history so I remember when retep couldn't sell a single Watch I remember the first time I heard of of Simone Brett courtesy of a friend who's sitting over there um and you know these are these are memories of mine and so for me it's it's contemporary watches are they at scale more beautiful than vintage watches I would say probably not you know when you look at a modern-day patch versus a vintage pek I mean vintage pek to me is as good as it gets and even if you look at this red chap a lot of this case uh DNA comes from from from from vintage ptech but again for me you know been doing this now for 16 years I I want to create the history and the the connections to to my life not somebody else's history I don't know the answer to that I really don't uh I'm I'm not in as deep as Ben you know um my collection isn't probably anywhere near as extensive as Ben's uh so I I'm just exploring enjoying the exploration you know and I think there's a lot to be gained from from both and I will say one thing about the modern world like people say that you know um it's all about Cosmetics uh in the modern watchmaking world and I don't think that's true at all like there are Innovations and movements all the time and there's new technology be you know behind the dial that I think once you start learning about that stuff is endlessly fascinating uh so I do believe there's innovation in the modern watch World probably time for one more and then I think we have to call it a day anything okay final question then for me so you said you don't have a gril watch what if I said I didn't believe you uh I don't know I mean I I I I because literally I'm trying Money Money No Object you can you can you can have anything you want I mean I guess like they're the usual like Panda Newman and that 6263 that's in you know pristine condition blah blah blah but that's boring you know like but and I don't know if if really if I got one it would be that satisfying you know like so uh but I will say that I'm sure if you check with me in six months I'll be like of course this there's this you know you see that one video somewhere that says that's the one exactly so it's it's always evolving you know and you know on a larger scale like this idea of materialism in general like is it really that you love the peace or you love the PE or you love The Thrill of the chase yeah you know and that's something that I ask myself all the time like when is enough or are you always wanting more more more and those are just questions I ask myself and with that Daniel Day Kim thank you so much really appreciate it thank you everyone